May 2025
I’ve no idea what happens to us when we die. When we pass. I don’t. There are those that feel they do and there are those that are happy to share their belief with you should you wish them to do so. There are also those that feel it their calling to make you listen to their beliefs and damn you if you don’t. I will admit, my experiences of religion, organised or otherwise, have not been good. Frankly, they have been somewhat traumatic. But I have clung on, sometimes desperately to my open-mindedness, because I’m not one to close doors fully, since once closed, doors tend to stay closed. I just don’t know. But this I do know. Whether or not I believe what you believe, I believe you get to believe what you want to believe without fear of doing so. I respect your beliefs, even if I don’t share them.
I was at the St Fagan’s Museum of National History some weeks ago, and I found myself staring at the skull of a Bronze Age man. Within a cabinet. Behind glass. I was fascinated. A little excited, to tell you the truth. I read the bit of blurb, nodded away in interest… felt I learned a bit, you know. And then a curious thing happened. I suddenly realised that I was in the presence of a person, an individual, and that this was not the place he expected to be 3000 years later. This didn’t feel like respect to me. This didn’t feel entirely right and proper.

I put up a post on social media on this point a couple of weeks ago, interested to find out what others thought. I didn’t think it would end up being my most controversial post – and controversy isn’t something I actively court, but I think it has. Some of those that responded felt as I did, which was to advocate for a stronger show of respect for those whose bodies we dig up. Some were more firm than this, that the bodies of the ancients should never be dug up and recovered, while others quite frankly believed that the bones were of no import other than what we could learn from them. This last opinion disturbed me – left me quite emotional, to be honest. One correspondent, with an archaeological background, suggested that because excavated graves were often so disturbed that the recovery of the bodies had become something akin to ‘a game of pick-a-stick’, and that hence respect of the recovered body was not required or warranted. I had, it seems, stuck my hand in a wasps nest.

But I suppose I should try to define what I mean by respect, since it seems to me to be one of those words that people throw around without actually thinking about too deeply. My copy of the Concise Oxford Dictionary (1991), which has been at my elbow now for over three decades, defines Respect as,
Regard with deference, esteem, or honour.
I think that it is also a question of the direction in which respect travels. It can be an individual thing – from me to you, or you to me. It can also be a mutual thing, in which respect is reflected. It can, of course, be both of these. There is also the question as to whether something is worthy of respect – a person or ideology, to which the answer is that, most assuredly, not everything or everyone is in fact worthy of respect. But here’s the thing – it’s also a question of being someone willing to show respect, willing to give the time and consideration to the possibility that a person or ideology is worthy of respect, even if at the end of that process, you may refuse to entertain the thought of assigning ‘deference, esteem or honour.’ Respect is, in truth, an exceptionally simple concept – but complicated by implementation and those that seek to dismiss its worth, largely for the obstacles it places against our desires.

Those responses that seemed to suggest that the bodies and bones of the long gone were not due my respect or that of others, seemed to press on several fronts. Ironically, none seemed to have any basis in respect.
There was an obvious sort of intellectual snobbery at play. Concerns were dismissed as a lack of knowledge or even intelligence. Who was I to question the practices of universities and museums, heritage bodies and organisations? What could I possibly know of such things – an amateur historian, peddling his wares on the internet, on social media, if you please? It seemed to suggest that if I actually knew of such things, I would be a member of the universities, the museums, the bodies that recover the bodies – a part, in short, of the establishment. I have always despised this pompous sentiment, and have had to work hard to reign in my teeth gritting rage at such nonsense – a working class background can easily fester into a blind and self harming anger at anyone ‘further up’ the pyramid. But the real danger of this attitude is how repellent it is. And by repellent, I mean just that, a repelling force, an attitude that rather than leading people to an understanding of a thing, pushes them away as they withdraw from the arrogance of its delivery. And it is an attitude that has nothing at all to do with open-mindedness or a belief that an exchange of ideas can lead us to a greater and deeper understanding. Those that express their opinions in such a fashion, have walked through a door and closed it behind them, never to consider opening it again – ever. And more to the point, they dismiss the opinions of those on the other side of the door without a thought of consideration on what they say – after all, if they were right, they too would have walked through the same door and closed it behind them, surely? It was an attitude that seemed to suggest that should I be a lot more experienced and a little more intelligent, I wouldn’t have a problem with digging up a few bones from where they had been placed with reverence, with evident esteem or honour and placed under glass in a museum or perhaps in a cardboard box in a storage unit somewhere. Well, I don’t happen to believe that respect is on a sliding scale, in competition with experience or intelligence.

Time was also used as a sort of crude cosh to bash me with. This argument seemed to suggest that some of the remains were so old as to make our notions of respect unnecessary, or irrelevant – the tooth of the proto-Neanderthal child found in the Pontnewydd Cave in the St Asaph area and on display at St Fagan’s is a case in point. It seems to say that respect has no place in the investigation of the very ancient. It might also be said to suggest that given the distance between us, we could not be expected to understand what these people considered to be respect, and hence we should not give it much thought. I find this argument nothing short of perverse and simply wrong. Why is it that we recover these bodies if not to try to understand them? Why do we dig if it isn’t to learn? Is it simply a matter of having the bones, the ashes? But if not, how is that in learning about these people we can so easily dismiss their culture and the respect they showed in burying their dead? Because one thing I do know is that what we have learned about these very ancient people shows that they did have lives worthy of our respect, however we feel about their rituals, their culture. Evidence of respect in the burying of the dead, in the rituals involved in the burying of the dead are so absolutely evident as to make this argument utterly nonsense. If we are to claim that distance in time makes these rituals irrelevant, then I say this says more about us than it does them. Where is the cut off point? At what point in the past does it become ok to dismiss the peoples of the past as not being eligible for respect. At point in the past does it become ok to take
These people were our ancestors and what we are is a development of what they were – their culture, their beliefs and the rituals that surrounded them. Do we do things very differently today? Where is the cut off point? At what point in the past does it become ok to dismiss the peoples of the past as not being eligible for respect. How ancient does a body have to be before it becomes ok to take the bodies and place them behind glass in a museum somewhere?

But what of those bodies of peoples that have simply died – without ritual or evidence of respect at the point of demise? Does this really mean we get a free hand with their remains? Of course not. Dying without ceremony does not mean that under different circumstances they would not have been given the respectful rites of their culture. Obviously. And what of the suggestion that because some of these bodies retrieved from the earth have been disrespected in the past then we are free to do as we wish with them, the bodies perhaps of those that breached the accepted norms of their society – murders, heretics and the like? There is much evidence that graves have been robbed out, sometimes destroyed altogether – antiquarians were often at fault here. There is evidence that graveyards have been simply ignored in later developments, the bones either removed and disposed of without a thought or simply built over, buried beneath housing developments and factories. The frightening speed at which an expanding Britain developed from an agrarian to an industrial nation caused much damage to graveyards, both ancient and more recent. Piles of bones, the bodies of dozens, sometimes hundreds of people gathered together in heaps and simply disposed of or reburied elsewhere with little concern or thought. Catastrophic events such as the Black Death led to mass graves, and one wonders as to how this impacted on the rituals of death and burial. And then what of those remains of victims of ritualised death in which individuals were sacrificed? Should we be allowed to show little or no respect because they died in such a fashion. The example that leaps to mind, is that of Lindow Man, an Iron Age, possibly Romano-British male violently killed and buried in Lindow Moss in Cheshire, preserved then in the peat – why he was killed, we don’t know and the theories are legion. You will find his freeze dried remains in the British Museum. Having visited the British Museum several times, and looked upon the remains of Lindow Man, my overwhelming feeling is now one of pity… and shame. What do I learn from these people under glass, that I could not, say from looking at a resin reproduction? I see no reason why we should absolve ourselves of respect for these people simply because others didn’t or wouldn’t.
Most amusingly, some of the criticism the post received was for seeming to shoe horn religion into a scientific endeavour – as if respect was the exclusive domain of religion. By suggesting that we should have more respect, I was, it seems, trying to bring a religious control over the efforts of archaeologists and historians. I was told in uncertain terms that these bones had no soul, and so there was no need to show respect, they were in effect a free-to-use resource. The arrogance of that. As if our opinions are worth more than the opinions of those buried. In my opinion, which is just another opinion amongst many, respect is not dependent on your religious beliefs. Respect, as I see it and define it, is a human quality – or should be.
Finally, the belief that because we may place little value on our eventual remains, then we are absolved from showing respect to the dead of the past is quite honestly, appalling. Some of the responses to my original post were so arrogantly dismissive of my assertion that respect should be shown based on this point. Well, that may be the case for you or I, but it most certainly was not always the case for peoples of the past. Judging our ancient ancestors by our standards can lead to terrible and awful misconceptions – and often very dangerous ones. I have not heard of any ancient bodies being discovered with disclaimers, pronouncing that future peoples may do with them as we wish. We may live in an age of opt-out organ donors, but we cannot assume such similar beliefs in the past.

So what is the alternative? My own argument is not that we should simply leave the bones and bodies of the peoples of the past in situ, since to do so does not ensure their safety from the knuckle dragging idiocy of the swivel eyed amongst us and thus risks a worse abuse of the respect I would argue the dead are owed as a matter of course. One has only to follow the ongoing court case of the two individuals accused of cutting down the sycamore tree at Hadrian’s Wall to be assured of that. And of course we should learn of the peoples of the past, both to understand them and us. Ultimately, this comes down to what must be considered understandably invasive investigative techniques, both of the graves and the bones themselves. And I see little alternative to removing the bones and storing them in some way, if for no other reason than for their safety from heritage criminals. There will always be those amongst us that have little regard for common decency, and it’s a vain wish to think it will ever be different. Making all sites safe from such base human desire is simply untenable.

My argument is that we should be ever mindful of the people that we find – mindful that these were once individuals with the same hopes and fears as ourselves, and that it is likely, perhaps more likely than us, that they had beliefs of a presence after death, that their corporeal existence was a part, but only a part of their showing in this world. To argue that their belief of an afterlife gives us then free reign with their earthly remains is just an excuse to play merry with the bones, and we should be honest with ourselves on that. And by mindful, I mean being aware that we are in the presence of an actual person, and no less of a person for the age of the remains, the context in which they were deposited, and our interpretation of the meaning of that context. I think that we should also give serious thought as to how we display these bodies that we find. I see no reason why the actual bodies should be displayed – resin reproductions, and these in a more engaging, educational context should suffice, I think. Why do we feel the need to display the dead like this? These are not the works of our ancestors – tools, cave paintings, weapons, stone crosses and so on, for which looking on reproductions can leave the viewer feeling a little underwhelmed, a little disappointed. These are actual people – however distant from us they may be. To give respect reflects well on us, and to give it freely should be something we aspire to and be proud of.
Every man is to be respected as an absolute end in himself; and it is a crime against the dignity that belongs to him as a human being, to use him as a mere means for some external purpose.
Immanuel Kant, quoted in, Immanuel Kant, His Life and Doctrine, F. Paulsen, (339-341)
New Articles
Work on Wrexham County continues apace. There are two new articles this month, with several more in varying states of near completion. Ruabon and surrounding areas have been the focus, and hopefully a few further articles will be available by the end of May.
Pont Cysyllte
When at the end of the 18th and beginning of the 19th centuries, Telford and Jessop went and built the Pontcysyllte Aqueduct – the highest canal aqueduct in the world, it quickly became inundated with more artists than a wet paintbrush could be aggressively shaken at. But the thing is, see, when you look at those etchings and paintings and sketches and relax the eye a little, you’ll often notice the little 17th century Pont Cysyllte in the foreground. Well, I suppose you could say its there for scale, or perhaps to just add a little context and a dash of quaintness to a delightful view. But, I also think the old bridge is there in their work because on arriving, the artists realised that in visiting the new technological wonder of the age, there was architectural beauty and magnificence already present here – beauty that could be experienced without the pendro.
We went along it; the height was awful. My guide, though he had been a mountain shepherd, confessed that he was somewhat afraid.’It gives me the pendro, sir,’ said he, ‘to look down.’ I too felt somewhat dizzy, as I looked over the parapet into the glen.’
George Borrow, Wild Wales, (1862)

Pont Cysyllte ~ if you look very carefully, you may notice the Pontcysyllte Aqueduct in the background.
The Ruabon Lock up
When I first moved up to North Wales, my soon to be wife and I bought a little two bedroom house in Ruabon – Bryn Street. I got a job at the Wynnstay Hotel serving behind the bar. I loved Ruabon. It reminded me a little of South Yorkshire – the accent was different, but the mindset was the same. And while I was familiar with churches and hillforts, both of which you can find in Ruabon, lock-ups were a new one on me. I was fascinated – especially with the look of them. For temporary prisons built to hold drunkards and the like, they seemed terribly likeable. I imagine it was a different experience for those held within them, but still…

Revised Articles
Just the one revised article this month – largely because I’ve spent much of the month wandering around the mysteries of Wrexham County. I began this site several years ago, and many of the articles still stand as good starts in learning about the wonders of Clwyd. But as my knowledge improves – which in itself has much to do with the ever improving quality of the source material, so does the need to look again at my earlier articles, some of which are desperate for a revisit. The following was a case in point…
In the early morning of April 1646, a mixed Royalist force of infantry and dragoons ventured south out of Denbigh Castle in a last desperate attempt to lift the siege of Ruthin Castle. The Parliamentarians caught them cold near the ford at Rhewl and utterly destroyed them. One of the Royalist captured there was a Captain Morgan, a man who was eventually to die single-handedly holding off the Commonwealth forces at Winnington Bridge in Cheshire in August 1659. The fierce, sharp engagement is likely remembered in the name of the bridge at Rhewl…

Visits
I’ve spent much of the month bothering Holt on the Wrexham, Cheshire border, and not just for the coffee and cake I’ve managed to shovel away at Cleopatra’s by the Cross. I think Holt might have its own weather system, since every time I’ve been it’s been a blistering kind of day. I imagine the Romans felt quite at home. But in having a recent look at the Pont Rhyd-y-gwaed, I got the bridges in Llanynys parish stuck in my head, and went a looking.
Bridges on the River Clwyd

Pont Llanhychan

Pont Perfa
There are several more, of course. I also took the opportunity to pop into St Hychan’s in the village of Llanyrnog. Strangely enough, I’d never visited, so sought to remedy that little nonsense. It was a brief visit, I will admit, and I shall return of course, before writing an article. But what I saw was fascinating. It was described within as the ‘Posh Church’ because of the little brass name plates on the end of the pews. I was taken aback by the stained glass window above the altar – the donation of Sir Joseph Crossland Graham in 1925. I was struck by the halos both he and his wife are depicted as having, and must admit to thinking a little ill of the man as a consequence. But thankfully Fiona Walker put me right…

The East Window in St Hychan’s, Llanyrnog

‘The Posh Church’ ~ St Hychan’s, Llanyrnog
Lady Bagot’s Drive
The We and I went for a walk down Lady Bagot’s Drive. My post desperately needs a rewrite. I am what I am, and what I am is the kind of human that selfishly leaves his wife with the two Border Terrorists while he wanders off into the woods with a camera and a frown and emerges dishevelled and filthy from a bush some time later with photos and a deeper frown. I found some stuff though…

Here be dragons…

The work of water…
Florence
There was also the small matter of a visit to Florence/Firenze. E. M. Forster taught me to ‘read’ and Merchant, Ivory deepened what was already a love of cinema. But I had never visited Florence. The We remedied that. I was largely breathless for three days… and not just because of the 400 step climb to the dome of the Duomo and the same to the top of the Campanile – the latter in a Tuscan thunderstorm. I think that for as long as I live, I shall never forget the apocalyptic thunder in the Piazza del Duomo followed by the resounding bells of the Campanile – God spoke and Man answered…

The interior of the dome of Florence Cathedral… where do you start?

Florence Cathedral and the Campanile ~ the Tuscan thunderstorm approaches…

Florence from a height closer to the heavens than earth.
What’s next?
Oh, I don’t know, do I? I reckon I will be wandering out into Wrexham County somewhere. Still, I do have to chug up to Bagillt this month to find the lock-up, half buried somewhere up an snicket somewhere. But when the weather is as good as it has been of late, I don’t like to be inside. I needs to wander, to feel the sun on my face and an ache in my legs by the end of the day. I’ll let you know if I go anywhere fancy like…
I fancy my evenings, however, will be doing some desk top research on Connah’s Quay, Buckley and Queensferry. It’s so naughty that I haven’t done so earlier…





























